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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby chouette » Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:19 am

Fogdude wrote:I think you satisfied the non-technical needs in the initial post. The rest of us can't help ourselves & this is always good information, even for those less technical.


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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Pip » Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:10 pm

Fogdude wrote:I think you satisfied the non-technical needs in the initial post. The rest of us can't help ourselves & this is always good information, even for those less technical.


I know what you mean Foggy, I'm the same myself. I'm in the loop on this and get to know ways and means for exploitation before it's published. I can continue this thread if you guys want explaining the how, why and how to counter it if you wish.

I'll also try to keep it simple for non-techies. Actually most of it is simple to counter when you realise how it's done. B)
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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Fogdude » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:26 pm

I see no reason not to continue sharing. Those not as technical, with questions, can always chime it. Questions are always a good way of digging into a topic.
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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Pip » Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:50 am

I've found a bit of time to carry on with this so here's the next installment.

Let's start with operating systems. Windows isn't really very good for WiFi hacking so the obvious choice is Linux. You can use any flavour of Linux but you will have the hassel of installing all the different programmes. My go to Linux release is.

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[size=150]produced by Offensive Security. It has (almost) all the tools needed for WiFi hacking. Modded programmes such as Reaver modded to work with PixieDust need installing but it's no biggie. ;)

I covered Reaver, Bully and PixieDust in the first post so I'll cover handshakes here. I must add that to use any of the online attack programmes you must have a wireless adapter that supports packet injection.

To capture handshakes the tool of choice is the Aircrack-ng suite. We put our wirelessadapter in monitor mode and start Airodump-ng. This will scan for all networks in range (including hidden ones ct :demon ). We select one with a client attached and continue to monitor it wirh Airodump-ng, next we start Aireplay-ng and deauthenticated the client by injecting deauth packets. The client then has to re-authourise and the 4way handshake starts. Airodump has been patiently waiting to capture the handshake and saves it as a .cap file.

I have a "fire and forget" script for this which takes about 2 mins to set up which will cycle through all networks in range until I stop it. It automatically skips networks it's captured the handshake from.

The hanshake contains the network name even if hidden and the password. Now all I have to do is extract the password. This is the part that take the time. It's easier and quicker if it's a default password as I already know the structure of that, eg. Virgin Media 8 lower case or Sky, 8 Uppercse. BT use a combination of 4lowercase and 4 digits. Anyway, program of choice for password extraction - OCLhashcat, this uses the graphics card for the computing. For me to crack a .cap file on my rig it takes 10 - 15 days but my graphics card is getting on a bit and only has 1600 stream processing units. I could put another one in and crossfire them and the time would be halved. :demon Not bad for a possible 208,827.064,576 combinations!

What if the password is a word or phrase? No problem OCLhashcat can perform a dictionary attack too! Obviously the time will vary depending on the complexity but it is worth remembering there's a limit of 64 characters for a password.

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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Fogdude » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:33 am

Methinks this is tracking off into the darker realms that cross the line into abetting, not helping. While I do enjoy such topics, I don't think it's wise to continue this thread on this site. Of course, that's just me...
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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Pip » Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:17 am

Not really Foggy, I've purposely not referenced any of the command lines.

All the programmes mentioned in both posts have to be run through a terminal window (think command prompt) and if you don't get the command line correct you're dead in the water. ;)
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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Fogdude » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:37 am

I know. I didn't say it actually hit on it. I said it was approaching. It just seems a bit on the edge, to me. An awful lot of inside baseball. :)
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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Pip » Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:51 pm

Let's face it Foggy, in my first post I detail which programmes and how they do it. In the recent post you think I'm going near the edge yet I've only done the same as the first post and you advocated me carrying on.

I'm not having a go at you but unless I explain how it can be done then it means nothing, I won't give enough details on how to do it.

I'm very careful about the amount of information I have put into both (and any future) posts. Those alredy tech minded like yourself probably already know about what I am posting or at least must have touched on it at sometime in your career.

Consider this, how many windows users would be able to use a Linux based system? Whitehats put exploits in the public domain for one reason only - The security hole can be filled. ISP's in the UK and Europe have protected their equipment from all 3 attacks outlined in the first post as I suspect those in the rest of the world has. Thanks to testers I know in the US I know your ISP's have too. The problem appears to be those using non-ISP equipment not updating their firmware as the router suppliers have fixed it (mostly).

I know of one team in the US that continuously check and develop tools only to bring it to the fore so that security flaws can be resolved. Even now they are finding both reaver and PixieDust can work on certain routers but I won't release that info here. It's too new! (I'll be testing it in the UK soon when they've perfected it and provide feedback to them).

Bottom line, you have to show how (up to a point) to get people to sit up and listen and then protect themselves. Wait until you see the next one then you may agree. ;)
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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Fogdude » Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:23 pm

I understand your point & I wasn't having a go at you, either. My comment wasn't probably as well thought out as it should have been. My only point was that it's difficult to know where the line should be. We don't always know who the audience is & while some information may seem mundane or common knowledge, it may be just enough to push a would-be hacker nearer that point. Not that you'd divulge anything specific, but with enough pieces & explanation of the mechanics, who knows who it may inform in a negative way?

That said, have at it. I trust you not to push the envelope too far, as I'm sure the others here do.


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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Pip » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:15 pm

I never thought you were having a go at me Foggy. Any wanabee hacker con download and install Kali Linux but then they've a very long learning curve to be able to use it. By the time they've figured it out the hole will been filled.

I worry about the Android apps out there which I won't mention.

I remember a small programme for windows 3yrs ago that had a database of most router pin numbers and found them quicker than reaver. Put the pin into reaver and all was revealed. It's now redundant though thanks to the work whitehats do and I'm glad I know a few of them. As most are based in the US they are thankful for the input that I and others in Europe (and the rest of the world), can give them.

The whole point of this thread is to make members aware of what could happen if they don't take the correct precautions. To do that I have to show how without giving too much away to those who want to try it.

For those who do wish to try it I'll just say try learning Linux first and then learn the command lines, that should take about 2yrs and by then the exploit will be redundant.

I'm deliberately leaving time between the posts to give members the time to think about their security protocols and hopefully change them. Even you and ct aren't bullet proof.

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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Roseflamingo » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:31 pm

I know your trying to be helpful and I do appreciate the info but I get headaches from reading this kind of stuff. I consider myself a pretty intelligent guy but to me this is all a foreign language that I just can't seem to grasp (not yet, anyway). I'm still having problems setting up my home servers, I tend to make changes according to directions and spend hours doing it and winding up right where I started which always seems to be nowhere! I guess I'm just too old to understand this stuff, born in the era of B&W televisions, wall phones, film cameras and LP's. I did master that pesky flashing time clock on my VCR though! Now somebody please pass me the funnies and some aspirin... :emo13

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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Pip » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:51 pm

Roseflamingo wrote:I know your trying to be helpful and I do appreciate the info but I get headaches from reading this kind of stuff. I consider myself a pretty intelligent guy but to me this is all a foreign language that I just can't seem to grasp (not yet, anyway). I'm still having problems setting up my home servers, I tend to make changes according to directions and spend hours doing it and winding up right where I started which always seems to be nowhere! I guess I'm just too old to understand this stuff, born in the era of B&W televisions, wall phones, film cameras and LP's. I did master that pesky flashing time clock on my VCR though! Now somebody please pass me the funnies and some aspirin... :emo13


Same era as Foggy and myself then. :LOL

Don't worry about the detail in this thread (it's there for the tekkies). After the next exploit I talk about I'll be posting how you can protect against almost all attack attempts.

Meanwhile this might make you smile. ;)

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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby chouette » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:05 pm

Roseflamingo wrote:I know your trying to be helpful and I do appreciate the info but I get headaches from reading this kind of stuff. I consider myself a pretty intelligent guy but to me this is all a foreign language that I just can't seem to grasp (not yet, anyway). I'm still having problems setting up my home servers, I tend to make changes according to directions and spend hours doing it and winding up right where I started which always seems to be nowhere! I guess I'm just too old to understand this stuff, born in the era of B&W televisions, wall phones, film cameras and LP's. I did master that pesky flashing time clock on my VCR though! Now somebody please pass me the funnies and some aspirin...
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My sentiments exactly! ;)

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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Roseflamingo » Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:21 pm

I Love, love LOVE IT! thanks Pip, that's just what I needed. (love how the video was slightly speeded up to fit the music. I own everyone of their films that are available and they still make me laugh, such wonderful men and movie comedians.) :emo11 Thanks again.

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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Pip » Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:30 am

OK, so here's the final exploit I'm going to tell you about and I'm not going to go into too much detail for obvious reasons.

Wifiphisher and the Evil Twin attack.

Fisrstly the Evil Twin. That is where I make my PC/laptop appear to your device as being your router. It will have the same network name and mac address as your router. Now all I have to do is have your device connect to me instead of your router.

Enter Wifiphisher. This will automatically set up the Evil Twin (once I select your network) then send deauthorization packets (and continue to do so) to disconnect you from your router. As your device will automatically try to reconnect to your network it will then pick up me - the Evil Twin, I look identical to your router so your device doesn't know any different.

You'll then be presented with a web page like this (in reality identical to your routers web interface).

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Now this is where I want you to think and be truthful. Would you be fooled by this? Don't forget we've been conditioned by windows to click to accept upgrades
it's not a leap in the dark to get you to enter your wifi password to get the firmware update for your router is it?

Once you do enter your password you'll get online but everything you do will be passing through my computer. Think you can beat it by putting a false password in? Think again, in the time you are expecting the firmware update to complete Wifiphisher has tried your password on your router. If it fails you get a page telling you you've entered an incorrect password.

I seriously doubt if any of you come across this one but then again...

This whole thread has been purely to raise awareness of what can happen and how easy it could be for someone to hack your wifi password if they had the time and inclination to do so. I do not condone anyone hacking wifi passwords unless they have the express permission of the bill payer of the connection. Yes I do it but always with permission and it's earned me quite a few drinks. :cheesy :Beer :Beer :Beer

Users in my immediate area are now much more aware and more secure.

I'll give you time to digest this post and comment if you wish, then tomorrow I'll post on the best method of protection.



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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Fogdude » Sun Oct 02, 2016 10:52 am

Yes, the Evil Twin is a tough one. I wouldn't fall for the password phish, but if the Evil Twin gets in...

That's why I use hard wired access at home. I even have guests who bring their computers use a hard wire, rather than wireless. Phones & tablets are the only exceptions, which do leave the opening.
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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Pip » Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:25 pm

Hard wired with wireless turned off is the obvious safest route Foggy but, in the real world there's more and more wireless devices that people are using. Mobile phones, apps on mobile phone to connect to devices in home while you are away etc.

Wireless connectivity is what people expect now most aren't aware of how vulnerable that "ease of use" can leave them - until something happens. :Unpleased Then they blame anyone but themselves. Hey-Ho that's the world today, it's always someone else's fault. "Where there's blame there's a claim". So sad a reflection on society.

Anyhow, I couldn't get back to this thread earlier as promised as the old congestion issues kicked in over the weekend and when I could I was limited due to other commitments I have.

I've to nip out for about 4 hrs then I have a little project to do for our Little Owlet and then I will finally post what I promised. Althogh with you it's like teaching your grandmother to suck eggs! :LOL
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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Fogdude » Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:52 pm

Hey, I'm always up for a refresher course.! ;)
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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Pip » Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:47 pm

Being busy with other things ATT I never got around to finishing this thread but here we go.

First I'll show you this standard crack time with default passwords from a site that offers to do it for you (at a small cost) as long as you supply the handshake .cap file. For obvious reasons thae screenshot doesn't show which site.


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As you can see the list is not exhaustive but should certainly open your eyes. The reason it is so quick not is not just new generation CPU's and GPU's but Hashcat (I mentioned earlier in the thread) has now been unified. At one time you either used Hashcat and your CPU or OCLHashcat and your GPU, with the new Hashcat you now can use use both at the same time and syncronised!

I won't go into any further detail on that as it's unnecessary, you already get the idea. So now how to secure your WiFi password.

Let's look at the standard for router passwords. By default most (not all) router producer ships with their standard format of either 8 lower case/uppercase/numeric or a combination of them. This is merely for ease of production.

The router though can have it's password changed with anything from 8-64 of the above plus special characters (punctuation,space,@ etc).

So, how do we make it harder for the cracker to get the password? Simple we just increase the time it would take. So, how do we do that?

First what you have to understand is that a hacker won't spend as much time trying to hack a residential connection as they would a business one, it's just not worth it. They would spend more time on the business/corporate one for different reasons.

A lot of so called "experts" say use a passphrase. I agree to an extent but even that can be cracked quicky using a mask dictionary attack in Hashcat (I'm not going into detail on that) but the cure is on the same lines. What you have to do is fool the dictionary attack which uses spaces as well as words.

Consider this passphrase, I love strawberries that's a password of 15 including spaces. Won't take long with a dictionary attack with a mask . So how can we change it to make it harder. How about 1 l0v3 5tr@wB3rr135 all of a sudden the dictionary attack won't work without rules to be applied to substitute numbers and special case for letters.

Now imagine a passphrase of 30+ using the above format (or any you choose which you can remember). Unless you succumb to social engineering they won't have the time nor inclination to target you any more. It's as simple as that.
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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby chouette » Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:00 pm

That's a frigging long password to remember with all these combinations, lol
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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Pip » Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:20 pm

You don't need to use all those combinations. Just use a phrase and change whichever characters you wish as long as it is at least 2.
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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Pip » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:11 am

UPDATE

As I said earlier I'm involved on the ethical side of things in a small way.

We are are presently testing a platform that currently (not at full speed) can make 1.700.000 guesses at any password per second!

That would mean that a standard 8 letter (same case) ISP router password would only take a maximum of
36 hrs to find.

Just saying. ;)


A ray of hope for you though, a passwrord made up of 10 letters including 1 capital letter and 1 number would at a rate of 10.000.000 guesses per second take 256 days to crack. Who's going to bother with poor old you at that rate?
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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby chouette » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:55 am

I'm thinking not many would bother, lol
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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Pip » Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:32 pm

Further to my last post, still not at full speed but with a few tweaks here's where we are so far.

This is taken after 5mins runtime.


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That's just over 13 hours for an 8 letter same case password. =O =O =O

EDIT As it happens we got lucky with this one as it turned out to be within 25% of the total keyspace and was cracked in 3hrs 45mins.
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Re: Time to change that default WiFi password

Postby Fogdude » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:07 pm

Just rename your WiFi router to "FBI Surveillance". Nobody will be trying to get into it again. :LOL :LOL :LOL
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